The Intent of this site is to stimulate A Question ... ? 
and maybe that question will be .... Is the Relationship form I have gown up to expect REALY the best one for me ?

The human Penis ACORN HEAD ON A SHAFT more
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Gorilla like than chimp like !UN-NATURALLY SELCETED FOR LENGTH sexual recreation and social display

The mental state of each person , self esteem , plays a greater part than the bio dynamics alone. 

science get stuck in a rutt ... first it was the world is flat , then we are relted more closey withe chimps yet .... From the point of view of hemoglobin structure, it appears that the gorilla is just an abnormal human, or man an abnormal gorilla, and the two species form actually one continuous population

and when it comes to things like thickness of sperm the firm plug as compared to the softer mass of the gorilla and human shows evidence trailsw e both are HAREM BASED , not the rape culture of the chimp yet of course over the 13 million years of homind development many breeding did happen ... think about the vast form of dogs hard to beleive they are the same speicies . ( instincutalism.org ..mating behavior page ) 

was the smallness of the gorilla testes 4 times? or 1/4 smaller or about 3/4 the size of human ,,, while the hcimp has a MULTIPLE OF 3 ... 3 nuts worth of sperm production for every nut we have .... again the evidence tail support HAREM FAMILY UNITS while modern science projects current relationship MORES and not reality . Justifaction for our current messed up world .

i gotta stop now i wrote a book on this TWISTED INSTINCT  after my 3 rd divorce kids with each chick .... and just finish watching in frustated silence of the continued mind F of humanity .

The Human Animal is most likely a fusion/fission harem species 

1 male who understands his instinctual drives, having proven his worth thru having a stable comfortable territory ( ie. separate housing  , recreation and family facilities , natural food supply , transportation , personal income stream ,  etc ) attracts 3 (+/-) females who desire a relaxed supportive family life .The personalities of these females are less EGO driven than is currently normal in the human/ape species.  

Scientists discover 2.5 million-year-old stone tools dating back may date .... It's graveyard evidence. That is evidence of a living, breathing human being ...
Sep 2, 2004 ... Computer analysis of an African fossil indicates that a human-like creature walked upright six million years ago—the earliest evidence

The male/female relationship of monogamy as we practise in the western world stems from laws passed by Rome around the time for the formation of the Catholic church ( +/- 300 years ) 15 hundred years ago as compared to 6,000,000 years , that is 6 million years of DNA history written in our Bodies minds and urges .

There is much evidence to lead us to the idea that a HAREM lifestyle is more natural healthy and stress-free for humans .

Mastrubate ! dolphins , whales , elephants , apes ( chimp , gorilla , oranutang , human ) monkeys and some birds regulary mastrubate . this common activity is often viewed as a time passing activity , recreational in nature . dolphins , whales , elephants , apes ( chimp , gorilla , oranutang , human ) monkeys and some birds regulary mastrubate . this common activity is often viewed as a time passing activity , recreational in nature .  
http://gregladen.com/wordpress/?p=199 anothe great aritcle proving our current mating of 1 on 1 is UN NATURAL or un instincutal .  

The semen of many primate species coagulates

into a mating plug believed to prevent the

sperm of subsequent mating events from accessing

the ova. The texture of the coagulum varies among

species: from a semisoft mass in humans to a firm

plug in chimpanzees.

The semi soft mass is more similar to the NON-sperm competitive Gorilla

click for more supportive science
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about female harem nature

Sex that basic drive second only to eating . Respecting the instincts of the nature of SEX is very important

Realize the HARMONY of nature as compared to the stress of DATING and working at your Marriage

Now look to science and think for yourself about your own body , your inner animal :

http://www.dhushara.com/paradox/homo.pdf

this study was done by a woman , and is a great article to start with , but rememeber just as chimps and gorillas have differnt mating styles so do humans. Plus feel the conditioning , the point of view of the Writer . Still a great article !
Chimp societies are complex, dynamically changing ‘fission-fusion’ societies with shifting sexual relationships between females and males, however here the emphasis is on male hierarchies and coalitions. In de Waal’s perceptive words (R162 62) “Male chimpanzees hunt together, engage in fights over territory, and enjoy a half-amicable, half-competitive camaraderie. Their cooperative action-packed existence resembles that of a human male, who in modern society teams up with other males in corporations that compete with other corporations.” ( true while the males are still immature , but once the male starts a family the human male secures an indivudual territroy and career . The fusion/fision of human ecomincs of our current age dictates close male ties while at work . Yet little or not mate sharing with males who are  family/friends . Humans more compare through out history with the harems of Groilla's in that the Head male does not share his wives and will drive away competive males even his own male children when they arrive at thier teen years in hopes his children will build thier own lives . This driving away is again comparable to Goriilla society ) While males display rituals of dominance, amid blustering aggression and reconciliation, females exert significant reproductive choice by subtlety and charisma, with up to half the offspring coming from secret liaisons outside the troop on safari trysts (Fisher R209, Jolly R346). Females seem to be more concerned with establishing and keeping a set of solid relationships with a small selective circle of friends and a few more clearly defined enemies. De Waal notes: “Over the years. I’ve gained the impression that each female in the Arnhem colony has one or two absolute enemies with whom reconciliation is absolutely out of the question’. Instances which would have been previously attributed to male aggression on closer examination reveal the action was instigated by a female with a long-standing grudge of her own” (Watson R735 117). ( is this an example of BEHIND EVERY GREAT MAN IS A GREAT WOMAN ? the female upon closer examination is found to be the cause for ..... agression/warfare )

When females have sexual swellings indicating fertility, they are extremely gregarious and range over large areas. Otherwise females usually feed alone or are accompanied only by their dependent offspring in core areas of about 2 square kilometers. In the wild they spend about half their time in each mode. In contrast the adult males are more sociable, spending less than a fifth of their time alone and ranging over an area of 8-15 square kilometers, seeking females and protecting and expanding their range against other males. Female distribution in relation to food resources is only a partial explanation for this arrangement because females are also monopolized into seeking the protection of male ranges to avoid aggression against themselves and their infants (Pusey R561 15-17). ( the gorilla symbolic fighting is mainly for show ,  leading to long term family stalbity and safety . This correlates with many human tribes who did not particiapate in more westernized forms of territorial warfare . Ie. the north american tribes were shocked at the warfare of extermination that the white man brought with him .  Thier native traditions concerning warfare as a whole was much more symbolic with limited loss of life ,and respect for the women and children.)
Apes, unlike most monkey species, are female exogamous, with half to 90% of chimp females moving to other troops (Hrdy R330 51, Pusey (R561 20), while the males remain with the existing group, which thus consists of males related to varying degrees who have a kin altruistic basis for reproductive cooperation. However males only show significant relatedness in some chimp troops (Taï, but not Gombe) (25). Mitochondrial mtDNA testing of hair suggests that mitochondrial genes are shared between chimps several hundred kilometers apart, indicating wide-ranging exogamy (22). Analyzing DNA found in the hair follicles collected from chimpanzee nests has become a method to test chimp paternity in the wild. At Gombe Julie Constable has found about 20% of conceptions come from low-ranking males with a majority from mating inside the group, particularly with males that were alpha at some time. All three mothers with more than one offspring fathered them by different males, emphasizing both female choice and the shifting nature of male hierarchies. (Pusey R561). In the Taï National Forest on the Ivory Coast, Pascal Gagneaux found only 6 out of 13 cases of paternity could be traced to male residents in the community the females frequented (Strier R673, Pusey R561), linking most to secret liaisons outside.

Incest avoidance and female exogamy in chimps are linked in a way which suggests it is females and not males in humans which should naturally be driving the incest taboo by their exogamy rather than being regarded as mediums of exchange by males, since they have to bear the full reproductive burden of inbreeding. Females coming into adolescence initially mate with most of the males in their own community. However females with older brothers or close relatives cease to travel with them and rarely mate with them. Even if the male shows interest in the female, she will scream and avoid him, presumably as a result of histocompatibility (MHC) odor similarity (p 355) and familiarity during immaturity. Females become fearful of older males in their own community but when they wander with sexual swellings they eagerly meet and mate with males from new communities, either joining the new community permanently or returning pregnant (Pusey R561 19). Sperm competition in utero may allow for selection of sperm with greater viability and genetic fitness. Promiscuity may also aid fertility by promoting histo-complementarity relative to the female’s own MHC and immunity type, again through odour (Birkhead R63 204). Mate guarding by an alpha male at the peak of fertility towards the end of the estrus (which ironically means ‘gadfly’) may also serve to give her access to generally fitter genes, despite her promiscuity.

This pattern of female reproductive choice, despite male mate guarding, is shared among many primate species. Despite living in harems dominated by a ‘silver back’ male, female gorillas sometimes mate with subordinate younger ‘black backs’ when they are present (Hrdy R329 147). Recently a mature captive female has been seen teaching her daughter how to bring up a child after she abandoned her first one, suggesting some matrilineal adaption (Leahy R401). A female savannah baboon in estrus will frequently mate with many different males, despite focusing her favours on a few dominant males who can secure her attentions when in peak. These strategies are all consistent with females applying genetic choice and manipulating such services of protection and resourcing as males have to offer.

Both chimps and bonobos share an overt reproductive cycle, and a frankly promiscuous reproductive life, in which the females assume almost all the responsibility for child-rearing. On average a chimpanzee will make love 100 times as often as a gorilla. Rather than a larger body size, the chimp has large testicles which can sustain frequent ‘flooding’ ejaculates to compete in a promiscuous environment. Copulating with as many males as possible in the vicinity within her immediate troop while she is in overt estrus and can pass without harassment, may serve to reduce a variety of risks of infanticide, although females on the periphery of an established group remain vulnerable to attack both from the existing troop and from outside males, particularly of their male offspring (Hrdy R330 86). The threat of infanticide, of alien offspring and of direct attacks on non-receptive females by male chimps drives females to seek the relative security of a range well within that of her male troop.

At least four female mating modes are in play, mating with the dominant alpha male, openly mating promiscuously with all the males in the troop (to protect against infanticide) ( INFANTICIDE CAN BE THE CAUSE FOR AS MUCH AS A 14 % INFANT KILL RATE FOR CHIMPS AND BONOBOS , WHILE IT IS ALMOST UNHEARD OF IN STABLE GORILLA HAREMS ,  and only occuring rarely even during a power shift in a gorilla harem , which is much more similar to the human loving tendancies than the tribial greed and power struggles of chimps or that of the GREEDY WAR MONGER HUMAN ....... realy what are you ? deep inside .... when the human males can so readly accept and love step children and adopted childern .... what are we ? ) , going ‘on safari’ in temporary ‘monogamous’ relationship with a male with whom a female shares an affectionate bond out of sight of other animals, and ‘mate guarding’ by a small coalition of males (Jolly R346 78). A female on safari will copulate 5 to 10 times a day, but an estrus female travelling with a group of males may copulate 30 to 50 times in a day (Hrdy R329 148). A high ranking chimp female may stay with the troop giving her offspring added survival support of a central position. The onset of menarche in an adolescent female may occur at about the age of eight but it is several years before her sexual swellings are full sized and grown males pay attention and begin mating in earnest. Even then a female may copulate on the order of 3,600 times during successive subfertile cycles before she conceives the first time, around age 14 and gives birth. Hrdy (R330 185) comments “an adolescent’s sexual swellings are especially conspicuous. Like bonobos, young females use them as ‘diplomatic passports’ that permit safe passage through hostile territories. This way a female can check out competitors and local resources in foreign communities while she decides where to settle and breed.” Once she becomes fertile she will be more fecund than older females. A female wandering with such a passport may not be attacked by patrolling males but may not so easily be accepted by resident females in unfamiliar territory (R330 85). Female chimps from dominant ranks are known to commit infanticide against lower ranking females (R330 52). A fertile female who conceives will have made love more than 100 times with as many as a dozen or more males during her ovulatory period. Such motivated sex is lustful and in De Waal’s (R164 53) careful words involves ‘orgasm-like experiences’. Along with bonobo sexual ecstasy this provides an evolutionary basis for human female orgasm in our common ape ancestors. Once she delivers her baby she does not return to the group but takes it alone and feeds in a small core range to protect it form attack.

Male chimps often form flexible coalitions to collectively depose a dominant male or to attack other groups. They share food as tokens of cooperation. As noted (p 59), successful alpha males often display skills of group mediation and conflict resolution as well as aggression to maintain their position. Coalitions of male chimps also stage raiding parties on neighbouring troops, killing or injuring other males and killing infants. Male monkeys and apes tend to commit infanticide on any offspring not sired by themselves (R330 34) sufficiently frequently to cause female chimps strategic reproductive problems. Infanticide both serves to eliminate genetic rivals before they become active adversaries and is a natural extension of interspecies competition. Males play no part in infant care but may form casual affectionate bonds and be followed by adoring young males.


You are not CHIMP or GORILLA , the rules are not set in concrete , yet feel again the inner sage . Are you a group male or a lone male , compare that to our DNA cousins .

Allow yourself to explore the differences POTENCIALLY of human group dynmanics as compared to the ideaas or rules you have grown up programed with !

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So young master let me continue here on this venue where I will not be interrupted , since it is my BELIEF that I will be interrupted by the EVE SPIRIT  when it is present , well then i do , for nothing comes to me outside of my belief in it . Zhuangzi spoke of the futitly of getting involved in debate in his day and age , for  debators just used methods of confuse and conquer skilled stimulators of emotion thru RETOHRIC …

 Lucky we had gone thru most everything a completeion of our short interaction at JAMMIN IN JENSEN … where you were FEELINg you way up your emotional scale as pertaining to 1 of your girl friends who wanted to now openly date this other guy ,,, you said you alwayst thought there maybe another before , but as long as .. my face was not rubbed in his presence I had no problem but now …. She wants to RUB my face in this guys asss so to speak as he is banging her and I got a problem with that … and you should it is clear example of the Gorilla DNa in you ..not chimp DNA ….. a chimp chick uses her HOT PUSSY AS A PASSPORT  to revle the jungle at large getting fucked by 50 different guys a day ..sometimes they will line and and wait for their turn at the SLOPPY SECONDS SLUT PUSSY … and then there is evidence of a female finding a way to become the 1 and only fuck of an ALPHA male and the change THINGS  inot mate protection instead of SLUT SHARING …. http://www.instinctualism.org/matingbehavior.html   understand your own SPERM young master   our liquid sperm is more like the non sperm competitive Gorilla than , the THICH Plug of chimp sperm

Ahhhhh the evidence trail of sexual mainuplation ,,if you read between the lines with a NEW  BRAODER PERSPECTIVE of observations of the Bonobo world ,,, you find sexual manipulation cultivated to heights . but back to chinp chick ….. 

 

Take a daycare room of babys around 20 ,, and realize that in the chimp world whether thru direct female to child murder or manipulative murder thru sexual ..exclusicivity she urges the male into violence that he would not normally do ( there is much evidence in the chimp world of males trying to protect the babys of  random females form the murdering intent of EVE  …. Out of the 20 innocent baby humans .. EVE will murder 3 …..we honestly ae not CHIMP …  could you seee us living like that … no we are the loving supportive harem speices like our next closest DNA cousin  the Gorilla

The authors point out that these new observations indicate that such female-led infanticides are neither the result of isolated, pathological behaviors nor the by-product of male aggression, but instead appear to represent part of the female behavior repertoire in chimpanzees. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070514121651.htm  Since gorillas are highly social animals, they try to defend one another when danger threatens…………… In stable peaceful groups, there is no apparent evidence of infanticide.But depending on many factors there has been an evidence trail of a new silver back upon taking over doing infanticide but most often when the child is presented to the male almost like a scaficial offring by the mother … the mother draggin the inferior baby ..for murder so she can bring forth the new DNA of a battle winner …. You need to really observe the evidence and not just judge the actionof the new silver back form TOPICAL OBSERVATIONS that are writtine ..there is EQUAL evidence trails to the ADOPTIVE NATURE OF new sivler back males also towards all new famly members . Eve came back from lunch half hearing my words became involved in the MYTHS OF soul mates http://www.instinctualism.org/soul_mate.html  ( myth they say has a seed in fact , the bibles myth of EVE was about greed for power and her seuxla manipulation of Adam over his inner guidance , the myth of soul mate was the seed of the example of the human condition slave to gods able to cut and craved up to be more easiLy used by GOD/KINGS )  , ..supported , that what is good for the GANDER IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE …( birds and humans split off a biilion years ago ,, ape and ape we are still even now ape )  of his 1 girl friend having other guys … and then …. The sublte manipulations ,,, as I tried to support my topic and the idea that I am just supporting 1 more free choice ….. I  DO NOT DIS ALLOW her from followingher own bliss …no go do your think your free choice but let me talk to younbg master ….Nope nope nope that it seems is not GOOD ENOUGH for EVE to be acknowledged as worry of being NOTED as a free choice  nope nope ,,,, it seems she is another of his fuck buddys ,,, that EVE uses him when she has the hots and her other BIG FAT COCK IS  not available. Yet she does not rub young masters face in her other boyfriends ASS …. But was ABLE to use  this sublte power to alter ttone and timber of our exchange of 1 MORE FREE CHOICE . 

Young master ….. the sage talks about how the youger we are the closer we are to our INNER BEING  to feeling our own feelings to being OPEN ..we are not totlally socialized …. While in teens and in early college …. But a chick who is getting close to 30 feeling the power of her sexial attraction the POWER OF  her income potential …. Is the richman outside of the eye of the needle from bible storys ..unable to LET GO of that power ..to find heaven .

The semen of many primate species coagulatesinto a mating plug believed to prevent thesperm of subsequent mating events from accessingthe ova. The texture of the coagulum varies amongspecies: from a semisoft mass in humans to a firmplug in chimpanzees. The semi soft mass is more similar to the NON-sperm competitive Gorilla

Remember science is not a fact …. Thesis can and is being proven INVALID all the time for we study and dicuss thru our SOCAIL LENZE

"When a decision is made to cope with the symptoms of a problem, it is generally assumed that the corrective measures will solve the problem itself. They seldom do. Engineers cannot seem to get this through their heads. These countermeasures are all based on too narrow a definition of what is wrong. Human measures and countermeasures proceed from limited scientific truth and judgment. A true solution can never come about in this way." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masanobu_Fukuoka 

common journal writings now are TILTED  towards new sexual mores of the MATE PROTECTED female ( MARRIED WOMAN )  having other men on the sly . The evolution thru scientific basis for CHIMP CHICKS .


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The Bonobo chimp is SEXUALLY recreational like humans , oral sex is preformed etc. here read more about our DNA cousing 98.4% the same as us.

http://fixedreference.org/2006-Wikipedia-CD-Selection/wp/b/Bonobo.htm

Sexual intercourse plays a major role in Bonobo society, being used as a greeting, a means of conflict resolution and post-conflict reconciliation, and as favors traded by the females in exchange for food. Bonobos have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex (most frequently female-female, then male-female and male-male), tongue kissing, and oral sex. This happens within the immediate family as well as outside of it. Bonobos do not form permanent relationships with individual partners.

Bonobo reproductive rates are not any higher than that of the Common Chimpanzee. Female Bonobos carry and nurse their young for around five years and can give birth every five to six years. Females are much smaller than males but have a higher social status. Females maintain their social status by cooperating amongst themselves. No one male can dominate the group because the rest of the females band together to protect the social order. The male's status reflects the status of his mother, the son-mother bond stays strong and continues throughout life.

Bonobos live in a fusion-fission pattern: a tribe of about a hundred will split into small groups during the day while looking for food, and then come back together to sleep. Unlike Common Chimpanzees, who have been known to hunt monkeys, Bonobos are primarily herbivores, although they do eat insects and have been observed occasionally catching small mammals such as squirrels. Their primary food source is fruit.



We are NOT Bonobos either , the world in which they live defines the need or lack of need for a PROTECTIVE male or harems to insure to stablity of the females and developing young.

Humans more likely developed a social structure to encouraged a protective male and the tent/cave was orginally the pile of rocks on the FIRE PLAINS AND GRASSLANDS . The marginal lands where we learned to survive in . The human ape not having the easy life of living in the LUSH JUNGLE had to become much smarter . We being the weakest for our NICHE ( not quite large like the gorilla not quite small like the chimps ) were driven out of the jungle lushness .

The human ape exposed on the grasslands became a PREY species so we evovled more rapid breeding .Which is part the reason why human females have enlarged breasts even with out children . IN our past she always had a child or 2 feeding . Unlike our cousins in the lush jungle . The protection provided from a DOM male for the harem is very important to providing stablity for animals with complex brains and learning needs to flourish .

There is thought and there is Thought Form, and there is Manifestation. Manifestation is always in the eye of the beholder. So this time-space-reality that everyone is perceiving is nothing more than vibrational interpretation.

So the Thought Form of that which is man was set forth from Broader Perspective, and has continued to evolve by the experience of those who were having the experience here on the planet. And what you actually see as man or human is vibrational interpretation. Now, did man come from ape? No, man was a different idea. So how does the idea of evolution occur? And we say, because the idea of each species was set forth, and as the experience of the species is lived, the idea expands. So the expansion is happening from the Leading Edge place, and is supported from the Source Energy that flows everywhere the idea goes.
--- Abraham

Excerpted from the workshop in Billings, MT on Saturday, June 21st, 2003

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a female gorilla needs to feel comfortable enough to initiate mating (in gorilla society, this is the female's role)

What is our real HUMAN  world supposed to be like ?

Has the last 10,000 years after starting to build pyramids really who we are ?

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Gorillas may breed year round.

  
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Females are in estrus for one to two days per month and only the dominant silverback has breeding rights.

  
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Gorillas are polygynous in nature because the dominant silverback mates with several females in his troop.

Females seem to have independence and will leave a group to join another or a single male if they find life in their group unacceptable. Thus, there seems to be strong motivation for dominant males to create an good life for the females in his group. Like human social groups, the dynamics within gorilla groups are dynamic and have complicated inter-relationships.

Reproduction
All subspecies of female gorillas sexually mature in the wild between the ages of 7 to 8 and in captivity approximately 5 1/2 years old. Males sexually mature in the wild between 8 to 9 1/2 years old and in captivity as early as 6 1/2. Males are not considered fully mature until about 15 years old. Gorillas do not have a distinct breeding season. Gestation lasts from 250 to 270 days. In the wild, female gorillas usually deliver their first offspring at 10 1/2 years old and at four year intervals thereafter. One infant is normally produced and twins are rare.

Life Cycle
At birth, infants weigh 4-5 pounds (1.8-2.3 kg) and have sparse hair covering their pink-gray skin. At about nine to 10 weeks, they begin to crawl on their own and soon walk on all four limbs. A white patch of hair appears on the rump of gorilla infants at about the same time they begin to walk. The white patch helps the mother keep track of the infant and assists other group members in identifying the gorilla as an infant. The rump patch begins to disappear at about age 3, the same age that weaning usually begins. Females remain with their natal group until about age 8 or 9, then join an unrelated group or a solitary male. Males remain with their natal group until about age 12, then begin to go off on their own. Solitary males try to attract females from other groups to form their own group.

All in the Family
A family group includes one dominant silverback male, several adult females, adolescents, juveniles and infants. The group may also include one or two subordinate silverbacks. All adult males are silverbacks. Although gorillas are normally not aggressive, they can exhibit certain aggressive actions when disturbed. Adult males perform elaborate displays, including chest beating, running sideways and tearing up vegetation to frighten off an intruding male or other threat. Males also use these displays as a show of dominance within the group. Adult females can become aggressive when defending their infants, or while helping each other drive off rowdy, young adult males. The silverback is the peace keeper and stops occasional squabbles between females.

Vegetarians with Muscles
Gorillas are incredibly powerful, the largest great ape in the world. Regardless of their imposing appearance, they are in fact quite shy, gentle animals. Gorillas are virtually vegetarian and forage throughout the day in search of a variety of plants to consume. The hair of the western lowland gorilla is grayish-black and usually reddish on their head (particularly prominent in adult males). At about age 10, males begin to grow the distinctive silver-white saddle of hair on their back, which in western lowland gorillas continues to extend down the rump and thighs as the male gets older. Mountain gorillas have darker, longer hair.

Since gorillas are highly social animals, they try to defend one another when danger threatens…………… In stable peaceful groups, there is no apparent evidence of infanticide.

The dominant silverback generally determines the movements of the group, leading it to appropriate feeding sites throughout the year. He also mediates conflicts within the group and protects it from external threats.[7] He is the center of attention during rest sessions, and young animals frequently stay close to him and include him in their games. If a mother dies or leaves the group, the silverback is usually the one who looks after his abandoned offspring, even allowing them to sleep in his nest.[