The
Intent of this site is to stimulate A Question ... ?
and maybe that question will be .... Is the Relationship form I have gown up to
expect REALY the best one for me ?
The human Penis ACORN HEAD ON A SHAFT more
Gorilla like than chimp like !UN-NATURALLY SELCETED FOR LENGTH sexual recreation and social display
The mental state of each person , self esteem , plays a greater part than the bio dynamics alone.
science get stuck in a rutt ... first it was the world is flat , then we are
relted more closey withe chimps yet .... From the point of view of hemoglobin structure, it appears that the gorilla is just
an abnormal human, or man an abnormal gorilla, and the two species form actually one continuous population
and when it comes to things like thickness of sperm the firm plug as compared to the softer mass of the gorilla
and human shows evidence trailsw e both are HAREM BASED , not the rape culture of the chimp yet of course over the 13 million
years of homind development many breeding did happen ... think about the vast form of dogs hard to beleive they are the same
speicies . ( instincutalism.org ..mating behavior page )
was the smallness
of the gorilla testes 4 times? or 1/4 smaller or about 3/4 the size of human ,,, while the hcimp has a MULTIPLE OF 3 ... 3
nuts worth of sperm production for every nut we have .... again the evidence tail support HAREM FAMILY UNITS while modern
science projects current relationship MORES and not reality . Justifaction for our current messed up world .
i gotta stop now i wrote a book on this TWISTED INSTINCT after my 3 rd divorce kids with each chick
.... and just finish watching in frustated silence of the continued mind F of humanity .
The Human Animal is most likely a
fusion/fission harem species
1 male who understands his instinctual drives, having proven his worth
thru having a stable comfortable territory ( ie. separate housing , recreation and family facilities , natural food
supply , transportation , personal income stream , etc ) attracts 3 (+/-) females who desire a relaxed supportive
family life .The personalities of these females are less EGO driven than is currently normal in the human/ape species.
Scientists discover 2.5 million-year-old
stone tools dating back may date .... It's graveyard evidence. That
is evidence of a living, breathing human being ... Sep 2, 2004 ... Computer analysis of an African fossil indicates that a human-like
creature walked upright six million years ago—the earliest evidence
The male/female relationship of monogamy as we practise in the western world stems from laws passed by Rome
around the time for the formation of the Catholic church ( +/- 300 years ) 15 hundred years ago as compared to 6,000,000 years
, that is 6 million years of DNA history written in our Bodies minds and urges .
There is much evidence to lead
us to the idea that a HAREM lifestyle is more natural healthy and stress-free for humans .
Mastrubate ! dolphins , whales , elephants , apes ( chimp , gorilla
, oranutang , human ) monkeys and some birds regulary mastrubate . this common activity is often viewed as a time passing
activity , recreational in nature . dolphins , whales , elephants , apes ( chimp , gorilla , oranutang ,
human ) monkeys and some birds regulary mastrubate . this common activity is often viewed as a time passing activity ,
recreational in nature .
this study was done by a woman , and is a great article to start with , but rememeber
just as chimps and gorillas have differnt mating styles so do humans. Plus feel the conditioning , the point of view of the
Writer . Still a great article ! Chimp societies are complex, dynamically changing ‘fission-fusion’
societies with shifting sexual relationships between females and males, however here the emphasis is on male hierarchies and
coalitions. In de Waal’s perceptive words (R162 62) “Male chimpanzees hunt together, engage in fights over territory,
and enjoy a half-amicable, half-competitive camaraderie. Their cooperative action-packed existence resembles that of a human
male, who in modern society teams up with other males in corporations that compete with other corporations.” (
true while the males are still immature , but once the male starts a family the human male secures an indivudual territroy
and career . The fusion/fision of human ecomincs of our current age dictates close male ties while at work . Yet little or
not mate sharing with males who are family/friends . Humans more compare through out history with the harems of
Groilla's in that the Head male does not share his wives and will drive away competive males even his own male children
when they arrive at thier teen years in hopes his children will build thier own lives . This driving away is again comparable
to Goriilla society ) While males display rituals of dominance, amid blustering aggression and reconciliation, females
exert significant reproductive choice by subtlety and charisma, with up to half the offspring coming from secret liaisons
outside the troop on safari trysts (Fisher R209, Jolly R346). Females seem to be more concerned with establishing and keeping
a set of solid relationships with a small selective circle of friends and a few more clearly defined enemies. De Waal notes:
“Over the years. I’ve gained the impression that each female in the Arnhem colony has one or two absolute enemies
with whom reconciliation is absolutely out of the question’. Instances which would have been previously attributed to
male aggression on closer examination reveal the action was instigated by a female with a long-standing grudge of her own”
(Watson R735 117). ( is this an example of BEHIND EVERY GREAT MAN IS A GREAT WOMAN ? the female upon
closer examination is found to be the cause for ..... agression/warfare )
When females have sexual swellings
indicating fertility, they are extremely gregarious and range over large areas. Otherwise females usually feed alone or are
accompanied only by their dependent offspring in core areas of about 2 square kilometers. In the wild they spend about half
their time in each mode. In contrast the adult males are more sociable, spending less than a fifth of their time alone and
ranging over an area of 8-15 square kilometers, seeking females and protecting and expanding their range against other males.
Female distribution in relation to food resources is only a partial explanation for this arrangement because females are also
monopolized into seeking the protection of male ranges to avoid aggression against themselves and their infants (Pusey R561
15-17). ( the gorilla symbolic fighting is mainly for show , leading to long term family stalbity
and safety . This correlates with many human tribes who did not particiapate in more westernized forms of territorial
warfare . Ie. the north american tribes were shocked at the warfare of extermination that the white man brought with him .
Thier native traditions concerning warfare as a whole was much more symbolic with limited loss of life ,and respect
for the women and children.) Apes, unlike most monkey species, are female exogamous, with half to 90% of chimp
females moving to other troops (Hrdy R330 51, Pusey (R561 20), while the males remain with the existing group, which thus
consists of males related to varying degrees who have a kin altruistic basis for reproductive cooperation. However males only
show significant relatedness in some chimp troops (Taï, but not Gombe) (25). Mitochondrial mtDNA testing of hair suggests
that mitochondrial genes are shared between chimps several hundred kilometers apart, indicating wide-ranging exogamy (22).
Analyzing DNA found in the hair follicles collected from chimpanzee nests has become a method to test chimp paternity in the
wild. At Gombe Julie Constable has found about 20% of conceptions come from low-ranking males with a majority from mating
inside the group, particularly with males that were alpha at some time. All three mothers with more than one offspring fathered
them by different males, emphasizing both female choice and the shifting nature of male hierarchies. (Pusey R561). In the
Taï National Forest on the Ivory Coast, Pascal Gagneaux found only 6 out of 13 cases of paternity could be traced to
male residents in the community the females frequented (Strier R673, Pusey R561), linking most to secret liaisons outside.
Incest avoidance and female exogamy in chimps are linked in a way which suggests it is females and not males in
humans which should naturally be driving the incest taboo by their exogamy rather than being regarded as mediums of exchange
by males, since they have to bear the full reproductive burden of inbreeding. Females coming into adolescence initially mate
with most of the males in their own community. However females with older brothers or close relatives cease to travel with
them and rarely mate with them. Even if the male shows interest in the female, she will scream and avoid him, presumably as
a result of histocompatibility (MHC) odor similarity (p 355) and familiarity during immaturity. Females become fearful of
older males in their own community but when they wander with sexual swellings they eagerly meet and mate with males from new
communities, either joining the new community permanently or returning pregnant (Pusey R561 19). Sperm competition in utero
may allow for selection of sperm with greater viability and genetic fitness. Promiscuity may also aid fertility by promoting
histo-complementarity relative to the female’s own MHC and immunity type, again through odour (Birkhead R63 204). Mate
guarding by an alpha male at the peak of fertility towards the end of the estrus (which ironically means ‘gadfly’)
may also serve to give her access to generally fitter genes, despite her promiscuity.
This pattern of female reproductive
choice, despite male mate guarding, is shared among many primate species. Despite living in harems dominated by a ‘silver
back’ male, female gorillas sometimes mate with subordinate younger ‘black backs’ when they are present
(Hrdy R329 147). Recently a mature captive female has been seen teaching her daughter how to bring up a child after she abandoned
her first one, suggesting some matrilineal adaption (Leahy R401). A female savannah baboon in estrus will frequently mate
with many different males, despite focusing her favours on a few dominant males who can secure her attentions when in peak.
These strategies are all consistent with females applying genetic choice and manipulating such services of protection and
resourcing as males have to offer.
Both chimps and bonobos share an overt reproductive cycle, and a frankly promiscuous
reproductive life, in which the females assume almost all the responsibility for child-rearing. On average a chimpanzee will
make love 100 times as often as a gorilla. Rather than a larger body size, the chimp has large testicles which can sustain
frequent ‘flooding’ ejaculates to compete in a promiscuous environment. Copulating with as many males as possible
in the vicinity within her immediate troop while she is in overt estrus and can pass without harassment, may serve to reduce
a variety of risks of infanticide, although females on the periphery of an established group remain vulnerable to attack both
from the existing troop and from outside males, particularly of their male offspring (Hrdy R330 86). The threat of infanticide,
of alien offspring and of direct attacks on non-receptive females by male chimps drives females to seek the relative security
of a range well within that of her male troop.
At least four female mating modes are in play, mating with the dominant
alpha male, openly mating promiscuously with all the males in the troop (to protect against infanticide) ( INFANTICIDE CAN BE THE CAUSE FOR AS MUCH AS A 14 % INFANT KILL RATE FOR CHIMPS
AND BONOBOS , WHILE IT IS ALMOST UNHEARD OF IN STABLE GORILLA HAREMS , and only occuring rarely even during a power
shift in a gorilla harem , which is much more similar to the human loving tendancies than the tribial greed and power struggles
of chimps or that of the GREEDY WAR MONGER HUMAN ....... realy what are you ? deep inside .... when the human males can so
readly accept and love step children and adopted childern .... what are we ? ) , going ‘on
safari’ in temporary ‘monogamous’ relationship with a male with whom a female shares an affectionate bond
out of sight of other animals, and ‘mate guarding’ by a small coalition of males (Jolly R346 78). A female on
safari will copulate 5 to 10 times a day, but an estrus female travelling with a group of males may copulate 30 to 50 times
in a day (Hrdy R329 148). A high ranking chimp female may stay with the troop giving her offspring added survival support
of a central position. The onset of menarche in an adolescent female may occur at about the age of eight but it is several
years before her sexual swellings are full sized and grown males pay attention and begin mating in earnest. Even then a female
may copulate on the order of 3,600 times during successive subfertile cycles before she conceives the first time, around age
14 and gives birth. Hrdy (R330 185) comments “an adolescent’s sexual swellings are especially conspicuous. Like
bonobos, young females use them as ‘diplomatic passports’ that permit safe passage through hostile territories.
This way a female can check out competitors and local resources in foreign communities while she decides where to settle and
breed.” Once she becomes fertile she will be more fecund than older females. A female wandering with such a passport
may not be attacked by patrolling males but may not so easily be accepted by resident females in unfamiliar territory (R330
85). Female chimps from dominant ranks are known to commit infanticide against lower ranking females
(R330 52). A fertile female who conceives will have made love more than 100 times with as many as a dozen or more males during
her ovulatory period. Such motivated sex is lustful and in De Waal’s (R164 53) careful words involves ‘orgasm-like
experiences’. Along with bonobo sexual ecstasy this provides an evolutionary basis for human female orgasm in our common
ape ancestors. Once she delivers her baby she does not return to the group but takes it alone and feeds in a small core range
to protect it form attack.
Male chimps often form flexible coalitions to collectively depose a dominant male or
to attack other groups. They share food as tokens of cooperation. As noted (p 59), successful alpha males often display skills
of group mediation and conflict resolution as well as aggression to maintain their position. Coalitions of male chimps also
stage raiding parties on neighbouring troops, killing or injuring other males and killing infants. Male monkeys and apes tend
to commit infanticide on any offspring not sired by themselves (R330 34) sufficiently frequently to cause female chimps strategic
reproductive problems. Infanticide both serves to eliminate genetic rivals before they become active adversaries and is a
natural extension of interspecies competition. Males play no part in infant care but may form casual affectionate bonds and
be followed by adoring young males.
You are not CHIMP or GORILLA , the rules are not set in
concrete , yet feel again the inner sage . Are you a group male or a lone male , compare that to our DNA cousins .
Allow yourself to explore the differences POTENCIALLY of human group dynmanics as compared
to the ideaas or rules you have grown up programed with !
Chimp chick
So young master let me continue here on this venue where I will not be interrupted , since
it is my BELIEF that I will be interrupted by the EVE SPIRITwhen it is present , well then i do , for
nothing comes to me outside of my belief in it . Zhuangzi spoke of the futitly of getting involved in debate in his day and
age , fordebators just used methods of confuse and conquer skilled stimulators of emotion thru RETOHRIC
…
Lucky we had gone
thru most everything a completeion of our short interaction at JAMMIN IN JENSEN … where you were FEELINg you way up
your emotional scale as pertaining to 1 of your girl friends who wanted to now openly date this other guy ,,, you said you
alwayst thought there maybe another before , but as long as .. my face was not rubbed in his presence I had no problem but
now …. She wants to RUB my face in this guys asss so to speak as he is banging her and I got a problem with that
… and you should it is clear example of the Gorilla DNa in you ..not chimp DNA ….. a chimp chick uses her HOT
PUSSY AS A PASSPORTto revle the jungle at large getting fucked by 50 different guys a day ..sometimes
they will line and and wait for their turn at the SLOPPY SECONDS SLUT PUSSY … and then there is evidence of a female
finding a way to become the 1 and only fuck of an ALPHA male and the change THINGS inot mate protection
instead of SLUT SHARING …. http://www.instinctualism.org/matingbehavior.htmlunderstand your own SPERM young masterour liquid sperm is more like the non sperm competitive Gorilla than , the THICH Plug of chimp sperm
Ahhhhh the evidence trail of sexual
mainuplation ,,if you read between the lines with a NEWBRAODER PERSPECTIVE of observations of the Bonobo
world ,,, you find sexual manipulation cultivated to heights . but back to chinp chick …..
Take a daycare room of babys around 20 ,, and realize that in the chimp world whether thru direct female to child
murder or manipulative murder thru sexual ..exclusicivity she urges the male into violence that he would not normally do (
there is much evidence in the chimp world of males trying to protect the babys ofrandom females form the
murdering intent of EVE …. Out of the 20 innocent baby humans .. EVE will murder 3 …..we
honestly ae not CHIMP …could you seee us living like that … no we are the loving supportive
harem speices like our next closest DNA cousinthe Gorilla
The authors point out that these new observations indicate that such female-led infanticides are neither
the result of isolated, pathological behaviors nor the by-product of male aggression, but instead appear to represent part
of the female behavior repertoire in chimpanzees. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070514121651.htmSince gorillas are highly social animals, they try to defend one another when danger threatens……………
In stable peaceful groups, there is no apparent evidence of infanticide.But
depending on many factors there has been an evidence trail of a new silver back upon taking over doing infanticide but most
often when the child is presented to the male almost like a scaficial offring by the mother … the mother draggin the
inferior baby ..for murder so she can bring forth the new DNA of a battle winner …. You need to really observe the
evidence and not just judge the actionof the new silver back form TOPICAL OBSERVATIONS that are writtine ..there is EQUAL
evidence trails to the ADOPTIVE NATURE OF new sivler back males also towards all new famly members . Eve came back from lunch half hearing my words became
involved in the MYTHS OF soul mates http://www.instinctualism.org/soul_mate.html( myth they say has a seed in fact , the bibles myth of EVE
was about greed for power and her seuxla manipulation of Adam over his inner guidance , the myth of soul mate was the seed
of the example of the human condition slave to gods able to cut and craved up to be more easiLy used by GOD/KINGS ), ..supported , that what is good for the GANDER IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE …( birds and humans split off a biilion
years ago ,, ape and ape we are still even now ape )of his 1 girl friend having other guys … and
then …. The sublte manipulations ,,, as I tried to support my topic and the idea that I am just supporting 1 more free
choice ….. IDO NOT DIS ALLOW her from followingher own bliss …no go do your think your free
choice but let me talk to younbg master ….Nope nope nope
that it seems is not GOOD ENOUGH for EVE to be acknowledged as worry of being NOTED as a free choicenope
nope ,,,, it seems she is another of his fuck buddys ,,, that EVE uses him when she has the hots and her other BIG FAT COCK
ISnot available. Yet she does not rub young masters face in her other boyfriends ASS …. But was
ABLE to usethis sublte power to alter ttone and timber of our exchange of 1 MORE FREE CHOICE .
Young master ….. the sage talks about how the youger we are the closer we are to our INNER BEINGto feeling our own feelings to being OPEN ..we are not totlally socialized …. While in teens and in early college
…. But a chick who is getting close to 30 feeling the power of her sexial attraction the POWER OFher
income potential …. Is the richman outside of the eye of the needle from bible storys ..unable to LET GO of that power
..to find heaven .
The semen of
many primate species coagulatesinto a mating plug believed to prevent thesperm of subsequent mating events from accessingthe ova. The texture of the coagulum varies amongspecies: from a semisoft mass in humans to a firmplug in chimpanzees. The semi soft mass is more similar to the NON-sperm
competitive Gorilla
Remember
science is not a fact …. Thesis can and is being proven INVALID all the time for we study and dicuss thru our SOCAIL
LENZE
"When a decision is made to
cope with the symptoms of a problem, it is generally assumed that the corrective measures will solve the problem itself. They
seldom do. Engineers cannot seem to get this through their heads. These countermeasures are all based on too narrow a definition
of what is wrong. Human measures and countermeasures proceed from limited scientific truth and judgment. A true solution can
never come about in this way." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masanobu_Fukuoka
common journal writings now are TILTEDtowards new sexual mores of the
MATE PROTECTED female ( MARRIED WOMAN ) having other men on the sly . The evolution thru scientific basis
for CHIMP CHICKS .
The Bonobo chimp is SEXUALLY recreational like humans , oral sex
is preformed etc. here read more about our DNA cousing 98.4% the same as us.
Sexual intercourse plays a major role in Bonobo society, being used as a greeting,
a means of conflict resolution and post-conflict reconciliation, and as favors traded
by the females in exchange for food. Bonobos have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities:
face-to-face genital sex (most frequently female-female, then male-female and male-male),
tongue kissing, and oral sex. This happens within the immediate family as well as outside of it.
Bonobos do not form permanent relationships with individual partners.
Bonobo reproductive rates are
not any higher than that of the Common Chimpanzee. Female Bonobos carry and nurse their young for around five years and can
give birth every five to six years. Females are much smaller than males but have a higher social status. Females maintain
their social status by cooperating amongst themselves. No one male can dominate the group because the rest of the females
band together to protect the social order. The male's status reflects the status of his mother, the son-mother bond stays
strong and continues throughout life.
Bonobos live in a fusion-fission pattern: a tribe of about
a hundred will split into small groups during the day while looking for food, and then come back together to sleep. Unlike
Common Chimpanzees, who have been known to hunt monkeys, Bonobos are primarily herbivores, although they do eat insects and have been observed occasionally catching small mammals such as squirrels. Their primary food source is fruit.
We are NOT Bonobos either , the world in which
they live defines the need or lack of need for a PROTECTIVE male or harems to insure to stablity of the females and developing
young.
Humans more likely developed a social structure to encouraged a protective male and the tent/cave was orginally
the pile of rocks on the FIRE PLAINS AND GRASSLANDS . The marginal lands where we learned to survive in . The human ape not
having the easy life of living in the LUSH JUNGLE had to become much smarter . We being the weakest for our NICHE ( not quite
large like the gorilla not quite small like the chimps ) were driven out of the jungle lushness .
The human ape
exposed on the grasslands became a PREY species so we evovled more rapid breeding .Which is part the reason why human females
have enlarged breasts even with out children . IN our past she always had a child or 2 feeding . Unlike our cousins in the
lush jungle . The protection provided from a DOM male for the harem is very important to providing stablity for animals with
complex brains and learning needs to flourish .
There is thought
and there is Thought Form, and there is Manifestation. Manifestation is always in the eye of the beholder. So this time-space-reality
that everyone is perceiving is nothing more than vibrational interpretation.
So
the Thought Form of that which is man was set forth from Broader Perspective, and has continued to evolve by the experience
of those who were having the experience here on the planet. And what you actually see as man or human is vibrational interpretation.
Now, did man come from ape? No, man was a different idea. So how does the idea of evolution occur? And we say, because the
idea of each species was set forth, and as the experience of the species is lived, the idea expands. So the expansion is happening
from the Leading Edge place, and is supported from the Source Energy that flows everywhere the idea goes. --- Abraham
Excerpted from the workshop in Billings, MT on Saturday, June 21st, 2003
a female gorilla needs to feel comfortable enough
to initiate mating (in gorilla society, this is the female's role)
What
is our real HUMAN world supposed to be like ?
Has the last 10,000 years after starting to build
pyramids really who we are ?
1.
Gorillas may breed year
round.
2.
Females are in estrus for one to two days per month and only the dominant silverback
has breeding rights.
3.
Gorillas are polygynous in nature because the dominant silverback mates with several
females in his troop.
Females seem to have independence
and will leave a group to join another or a single male if they find life in their group unacceptable. Thus, there seems to
be strong motivation for dominant males to create an good life for the females in his group. Like human social groups, the
dynamics within gorilla groups are dynamic and have complicated inter-relationships.
Reproduction All subspecies of
female gorillas sexually mature in the wild between the ages of 7 to 8 and in captivity approximately 5 1/2 years old. Males
sexually mature in the wild between 8 to 9 1/2 years old and in captivity as early as 6 1/2. Males are not considered fully
mature until about 15 years old. Gorillas do not have a distinct breeding season. Gestation lasts from 250 to 270 days. In
the wild, female gorillas usually deliver their first offspring at 10 1/2 years old and at four year intervals thereafter.
One infant is normally produced and twins are rare.
Life Cycle At birth, infants weigh 4-5 pounds (1.8-2.3 kg) and have sparse hair covering their
pink-gray skin. At about nine to 10 weeks, they begin to crawl on their own and soon walk on all four limbs. A white patch
of hair appears on the rump of gorilla infants at about the same time they begin to walk. The white patch helps the mother
keep track of the infant and assists other group members in identifying the gorilla as an infant. The rump patch begins to
disappear at about age 3, the same age that weaning usually begins. Females remain with their natal group until about age
8 or 9, then join an unrelated group or a solitary male. Males remain with their natal group until about age 12, then begin
to go off on their own. Solitary males try to attract females from other groups to form their own group.
All in the Family A family group includes
one dominant silverback male, several adult females, adolescents, juveniles and infants. The group may also include one or
two subordinate silverbacks. All adult males are silverbacks. Although gorillas are normally not aggressive, they can exhibit
certain aggressive actions when disturbed. Adult males perform elaborate displays, including chest beating, running sideways
and tearing up vegetation to frighten off an intruding male or other threat. Males also use these displays as a show of dominance
within the group. Adult females can become aggressive when defending their infants, or while helping each other drive off
rowdy, young adult males. The silverback is the peace keeper and stops occasional squabbles between females.
Vegetarians with Muscles Gorillas are incredibly
powerful, the largest great ape in the world. Regardless of their imposing appearance, they are in fact quite shy, gentle
animals. Gorillas are virtually vegetarian and forage throughout the day in search of a variety of plants to consume. The
hair of the western lowland gorilla is grayish-black and usually reddish on their head (particularly prominent in adult males).
At about age 10, males begin to grow the distinctive silver-white saddle of hair on their back, which in western lowland gorillas
continues to extend down the rump and thighs as the male gets older. Mountain gorillas have darker, longer hair.
Since gorillas are highly
social animals, they try to defend one another when danger threatens…………… In stable peaceful
groups, there is no apparent evidence of infanticide.
The dominant
silverback generally determines the movements of the group, leading it to appropriate feeding sites throughout the year. He
also mediates conflicts within the group and protects it from external threats.[7] He is the center of attention during rest sessions, and young animals frequently stay close to him and include him
in their games. If a mother dies or leaves the group, the silverback is usually the one who looks after his abandoned offspring,
even allowing them to sleep in his nest.[
